Episode pod #30: To Frank and Alexander

Source:
https://www.podbean.com/eau/pb-xibdm-b85b09

Frank is has to stand up to stay awake from 11 pm to 12. But as soon as he goes to bed midnight his mind starts racing. Alexander has heard of a strategy to treat insomnia by going to bed the same time every night and get out of bed permanently the first time you wake up. Should he try this?
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